Thanks))))
See you later!

Hi! One more qustion about announcements. Is it more appropriate to call speed in knots rather then in kmph giving information in English?

MSL
Hi,
The info re speed is usually given (announced) in miles per hour or kilometres per hour. It's always displayed on the monitor in front of a passenger on long hauls.
While the height is displayed in feet and metres cosequently, but I am sure you know it all))))

Hi, Mila.
I'm not so keen on announcement habits of foreign airlines. You say they call speed in mph. But what mile do they mean - statute or nautical? If last one, then they mean knots.

And BTW, what is the attitude to the "4-th of July" in the UK?

MSL to be honest, I have no idea what do they mean))))

Perhaps somebody is celebrating))) don't watch TV)))

I'm not so keen on announcement habits of foreign airlines. You say they call speed in mph. But what mile do they mean - statute or nautical? If last one, then they mean knots.
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As I am a frequent flyer... =))
Miles - nautical. But we have misunderstandig in some way.
Between different cultures. So you better go standart way of saying "mph" in english.
Nobody will pay so much attention.
Everybody who knows the rules - they will understand the point.
If they are just PAX - they do not feel the difference.
So simple...

2 0стровитянин
It's very unfamiliar for me to call knots as mile per hour. I'd better stay on kmph. Although all of my flight instruments with regard to the speed are marked by knots.

0стровитянин
So simple...

Not so simple...
I think we have no any misunderstanding between different cultures.
All passengers studied units of speed measurement at school. Everybody knows that speed is "a measure of the rate of motion of a body expressed as the rate of change of its position in a particular direction with time. It is measured in metres per second, miles (land mils or statute miles) per hour, kilometres per hour, knotes (nautical miles per hour), etc."
However... If I'm a passenger I want to have correct information in captain's announcement.
The attitude: "If they are just PAX - they do not feel the difference." even as the sobriquet "PAX" could be an obvious hint of an irreverent attitude to passengers.
Dear 0стровитянин, I didn't want to hurt you by my remark but I'm sure that If someone shows a professional attitude to details, in particular towards announcements of the crew, he is held in respect by everyone.

I'd better stay on kmph.
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It is as well understandable by Europeans.
Even by British. The UK is now on metric system for about 10 years.
Not fully though, but people already getting use to it.

I saw all speeds (kts, kph, mph) on cabin's monitor when I was flying with Malev

I think we have no any misunderstanding between different cultures.
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We have - believe me we have.
Youngsters are flexible. Elders... мда.
I cought the end of shillings in UK. =)))
Such a cry...

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All passengers studied units of speed measurement at school.
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Better to say "majority" =)))

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If I'm a passenger I want to have correct information in captain's announcement.
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Any difference for example between knots or statute miles
per hour for your feelings?
What is the point?
Our colleague MSL told "I'd better stay on kmph" - so let it be.
For me as a PAX - there is not a single difference. IF I am so curious I rather
learn a bit. And then start recalculating kmph, mph, knots by myself.

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even as the sobriquet "PAX" could be an obvious hint of an irreverent attitude to passengers.
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Should not be. That is an official form from various docs.
I am PAX. By the way - PAXes sould be proud.
PAX - means "The Peace" in Latin.
=)))))

but people already getting use to it.
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Obviously "getting used" - sorry, but all these buttons...

2 0стровитянин and klg

Thanks for your opinions gentlemen.


I saw all speeds (kts, kph, mph) on cabin's monitor when I was flying with Malev

Unfortunately our planes aren't equipped with cabin monitors. But I suppose it's more pleasant for passengers to listen to live first hand information, then watch monitors. Those who are obsessed on tracking could use their own gages :-) (It's not a problem nowadays). Or to become pilots. :-)

Re. Inna's search on the web...
here is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ...
:)

But I suppose it's more pleasant for passengers to listen to live first hand information, then watch monitors.
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Lets say that "advanced" PAX prefers both ways. Monitor and Pilot's voice.
=)))
Believe me, even for frequent flyers the live voice with some "smile" - is
something which makes your life more pleasant.
Not because of aerofobia - no. Just how it was in that cartoon?
"От улыбки станет всем светлей" =))))

0стровитянин
Believe me, even for frequent flyers the live voice with some "smile"

Here are couple of movies to avoid an aerophobia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ...

and one more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ...
"От улыбки станет всем светлей" =))))

klg - funny =))

to klg:
" If I'm a passenger I want to have correct information in captain's announcement"

As a former Flight Attendant let me say... you are a good ecxeption!
As 0стровитянин says majority of PAX doesn't care and doesn't pay attention to any information on board... even international flights... ecxept Germans... probably. :-) That's why approximate (or estimate) numbers will be enough for them.

At the last movie, audience looked (acted and sounded) not better than main hero did.

2 MSL
But they are spectators only, nevertheless they are glad and cheering. And you've got to hand it to him and he's putting on the best possible face. He doesn't lay flat even. "Our" guy :)

The soundtrack came to me as if it were the one for National Geographic program about a life of the pack of wild baboons...

klg

Re. Inna's search on the web...
here is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ...
:)



What are you laughing at? Read comments - same question.

Hi to all!
Well you are right in your own way.
However, as a PAX (a passenger) I am more concerned about the flight itself rather than the statistics. And if the PIC is communicating with the passengers I would prefer easy goer, with GSOH)))

MSL
I am just wondering: do you talk to your Russian passengers in English or do you also have foreigners on board and you just need to make all announcements in English?

2 Авиадиспетчер
What are you laughing at?

I think this video was produced very funny.
Captain as mad as Freddy Krueger and he frightens the passangers before taking off.
Usualy I don't read any comments on YouTube so as I like "to activate" my imagination to form my own opinion and... sometimes to chuckle at silly jokes.
This time, following your advise, I've read. There are interjections only :)

2 Mila
We have foreigners on board quite often. Yet our native business travelling passengers are also pleased by English treatment. A kind of international standards. Easy to do and pleasure for people - cheep and drastic :-)

MSL
Every good and even little effort does make a difference! I am impressed and would like one day to board a plane of your company)))

Every good and even little effort does make a difference!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ...

Just about our theme =))))

to follow you with the topic))))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ...

By the way if we started to see vidoes...
This is the very nice song from the same movie about Mary Poppins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ...

She is singing about the feeding the birds.
So - I have a question. =)))

Why - tuppence? Why the Authors especially have mentioned "tuppence"?
There was the reason.
Simple answers like "The price for crumbs on the steps of St Paul was two pence" - are not accepted. Sorry =)))
The price actually - was. But why it is such a pushing for this moment?
It is much deeper.

Can I just suppose, Oleg, that two pennies were not that much money.
If you compare with "Spend a penny" which means to go to the loo and pay just one penny, so 2 pennies were actually nothing but charity. So pay tuppence and feed the birds))) and let them be happy and free. To show that somebody is actually caring.
Is that more or less to your satisfaction?

Nice to talk to you, but I am actually an early bird (( ((
Bye for now!

Is that more or less to your satisfaction?
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No, Mila. Absolutely not.
OK - a bit of "links". This movie is from 1964.
Obviously people who were involved - they were from the earlier times.
So?

Mila, do not be ashamed if you do not know the answer. = (( (
Believe me - most of the people (even in UK) - they have no idea.
Their thinking ends exactly were yours.
Tuppence - nothing to spend. Wrong answer.
Once upon a time I was talking to one man.
He explained to me the meaning of this song.

Now we are playing "What? Where? When?" (c) )))

Wild guess: was there a tuppence coin some time ago?

Thanks Oleg, I am honest that I have never heard of this meaning before)))

Well, boba, I think this way could be just another level for brushuppers to expand to)))
BTW
re:tuppence...rather interesting word in our days)))

1 Was once also slang word for money


2Another word for a females Vagina
A man has a winkle and a woman has a tuppence.


3.Another use of 'tuppence' -- in olden days the London pay toilets cost one penny... so if you had to go #1 (for a piss) you needed to 'spend a penny'...

so if you had to go #2 ( for shit), you needed to 'spend tuppence'.

Boba, you are right, there wasn't a tuppence coin in older days)))

Good morning!
--
Mila Love
Boba, you are right, there wasn't a tuppence coin in older days)))

There were the special coins equal to two pennies in older days:
3) a former copper coin of Great Britain, equal to two pennies, issued under George III.
4) a former silver coin of England, equal to two pennies: issued only as maundy money after 1662
http://dictionary.reference.co ...

for example there are Maundy Money equal to 1, 2, 3 and 4 pennies from 1818
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi ...

So - the correct answer.

Tuppence was a normal gift to beggers and poor.
Why? Because it was in earlier days the price of one portion of "fish and chips".
The cheepest one - in a newspaper. The workers were bying it near the gates of the factories.
Small piece of cod in crumbs and couple of fried pieces of potato.
So - tuppence - is a half day ration for poor.
If you are wealthy - "feed the birds". If you are poor as well - make a donation of your half day ration. You will live but may be you will save somebody.

May I ask another question? =))))

Please, continue. Thanks to your puzzles, now I know what is "a penny" and thanks to Mila's explanations I know that "A man has a winkle and a woman has a tuppence" :)

I know that "A man has a winkle and a woman has a tuppence" :)
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Dear klg,
Now as an usual argo people are using another terms =)))
The terms above are too old =)))

Regarding the next question.

Who is Mary Ann? That's not just a name.
That is the term.

There is the song in russian by Высоцкий.
So - who is Mary Ann? And why such an attidude?

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Толстушка Мэри Энн была:
Так много ела и пила,
Что еле-еле проходила в двери.
То прямо на ходу спала,
То плакала и плакала,
А то визжала, как пила,
Ленивейшая в целом мире Мэри.

Чтоб слопать все, для Мэри Энн
Едва хватало перемен.
Спала на парте Мэри
Весь день по крайней мере, -
В берлогах так медведи спят и сонные тетери.

С ней у доски всегда беда:
Ни бэ ни мэ, ни нет ни да,
По сто ошибок делала в примере...
Но знала Мэри Энн всегда -
Кто где, кто с кем и кто куда, -
Противнейшая в целом мире Мэри!

Но в голове без перемен
У Мэри Энн, у Мэри Энн.
И если пела Мэри,
То все кругом немели, -
Слух музыкальный у нее - как у глухой тетери.
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And the next puzzle will be... OK.
Here we are.

What was the salary of vet doctor after a good college in Britain with diploma
in let say... late 30-s 20-th centuary?

attidude
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Dear colleagues,
I am kindly asking you to pardon me for misprints.
= (( (( ((

0стровитянин
"So - who is Mary Ann?"

Can she really is Mary Ann Cotton? How horrible!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M ...

Can she really is Mary Ann Cotton? How horrible!
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No - this is the wrong answer.
=))))

marry anne
big sexy woman... usually the mother of a fire crotch, a whore and very cheap for sex.
marry anne is very nice.
really? Why?
She's cheap!

a fire crotch
A name given to red-headed people to describe their red pubic hairs.

Oleg,
The answer depends:
1.If you are you asking the salary of a female or male vet?
2. per annum or per month?