MSL sorry, what airline do you work for?

2 Штурман ёмоё
If you don't mind I'd like not to reveal my identity "on the open air". But it's not a secret, I can specify it by e-mail if it's necessary.

at home or abroad will be enough )

Moscow

Grammar
Wouldn't it be better to say as follows:
If you don't mind I'd like not to reveal my identity "on air"
as "open air" means outside?

2 Mila
Very likely. Cause by "open air" I meant "broadcast for any indefinite person". Just didn't know how to say it exactly.

Hi MSL
I wonder if you could possibly tell me what hotels in Moscow are reasonbly good for money and service...It's rather difficult to work out from the Internet...They all look the same.I mean you probably know better> as I understand you are from the area.
I used to stay in Izmailovo as this is quite good location and connection with the centre ..but was dissapointed by their service and "sovoc" attitude last year.;- (( (
Would be grateful for any advice.
Thanks

Hi, Mila
I'm afraid as a resident I'm a bad advisor with respect to choosing a hotel and any other "traveller's affairs". One thing I know, to rent a flat or room might be more efficient then to stay in hotel. But I'm a complete dilettante at this field.

Thanks, MSL.
I understand that. The thing is that probably some of our guests of the forum do have some sort of experience and will come forward with useful info one day...
Please don't worry that much.
Re: renting a flat - I am not staying that long in Moscow- a couple of days ....

I'm amazed at Штурман ёмоё. No hello no good bye, just "who are you working for", and to the bottom. Who are YOU working for to ask question that way? :-) What for are you interesting?

Hi, Mila.
I beg to advise one hotel if it is ok with the price. I'm talking about "Orekhovo" hotel. It is situated next to metro Orekhovo (1 minute on foot).
It costs about 3000 roubles per day and it takes about 25 minutes to get to the citycentre by metro. the hitel is quite nice and comfortable.

MSL, you shouldn't worry so much i guess. I'm not still involved in your small private english trainig world with good nights and best wishes eery day :)I prefer to observe the thread and had simply interested in you coz its clear about Mila, NN, another guy, living abroad.. that's all. Either you're provoking me for supporting the thread's life or what? U see, i can ask such a strange question too :)
P.S. i highly apreciated all, who helped me here before

2 Штурман ёмоё
Truly simplicity is not a sin! Keep on my friend ;-)

2 Straightahead
Thanks, I appreciate your personal recommendation. That's what really important. As i mentioned previously I am looking for accommodation where people have stayed and liked it rather booking something on line. The price looks good and I'd rather have another look at it!
Thanks again.

2Штурман ёмоё
I wouldn't worry either, just pop in and ask whar you are interesetd in and IF we can help you that certainly would be my personal as well as other participants' SATISFACTION. You are not completely right by saying that this thread is a sort of small private English training world. We can't be private as we are on air and everybody is welcome..But it's nice to know how people respect each other by just saying Hi and Bye for courtesy because firstly, it's typical for English speaking world and secondly, we "meet" up here quite often..

To ALL

As i have already noticed that almost all threads here are formed to particular likes and dislikes of certain social groups of people. Many of them are rather popular and some are one day life. I strongly believe that we are communicating here because we like speaking English and there is no need to say just anything to support the thread. It will "live" as long as people are interested to talk without being verbally abused as it often happens in many other threads.
So politeness, courtesy, respect, wish to learn something - all those are main issues for what we are here today..
See you soon!

MSL keep on playing tricks on me :)
Want to commence the discussion about american radiocommunication specific. I'm sorry if Mila find it lame and boring, but.. I've found some contradiction in my mind while listening the recording of Buffalo Approach (heres the link http://archive-server.liveatc. ... I've been asking this question to myself a lot earlier but noone was so close like now to comment or explain.
The principle thing that amases is non-reading back a callsign and most of inctructions EXTREMELY frequently. Is that a slackness or such a rebellious coolness? I can't beleive this doesn't lead to trouble sometimes!

Haha, i've just realised why this topic is pleasant to read to (or without second to? Mila?)! It doesn't attract REVERS and jeppesen, our omnipresent forum's ghosts, as well as other flooders

2Штурман ёмоё
Nice to hear from you!! I can't open your link ;- (( (
And you are again wrong...It's not boring for me because whether you like it or not but are actually SPEAKING ENGLISH!! This is what we are all about.
And you are certainly RIGHT- there are no trolls or flooders ...If they decide to emerge from their "moorland" I will certainly ban them! immediately!!

Hi, everybody!
to Штурман ёмоё
You are extremely right obout flooders! (touching wood in order not to put the evil eye on)

2 Штурман ёмоё
+ 100 about trawls

Have just read the Headline re:statistics
"Среднестатистический россиянин выпивает около 18 литров чистого спирта в год"
Don't know what to say really....

Mila, post nr 5, the last link, hope it works http://www.usaviation.com/foru ...

2 Штурман ёмоё
Blind me....Firstly when I started listening to it sounded all right- normal sort of communication between Tower and CO...It was a bit sketchy though with interruptions...
Sorry, I couldn't listen to the very end...I am a sort of "emotional"....

I was mostly satisfied with:

2m:06sec
ATC:615, turn right, heading 160
615:.... (just pushed the button)

4m:07sec
ATC: 615, cleared....marker to establish localizer, approach RW23, .........
615: 615

4m:44sec
ATC: UNITED 246, descend and maintain 2300
UNITED 246: UNITED 246

7m:56sec
ATC: UNITED 246, contact Tower 120, 5 have a good night
UNITED 246: .... (just pushed the button)

It’s very sad to listen to things like that. :- (( (
Nevertheless about the substance.
I wouldn’t call it "extremely". Crews mostly confirmed as appropriate. Sometimes they did it quite unreadable, but it’s another deal. No doubt some omitting in confirmation took place, but if it was really necessary ATC made them clarified reports (Cactus 1452 for instance). Stressful and tense atmosphere of an emergency was the cause I guess. I think it’s not the best example to make generalisation.

Yes, agree, it's very frustrating to listen to those voices...
I also realised that from the beginning of the communication (in that recorded part) they all - the crew- sounded rather relaxed, omitting confirmations, asuming that everything was just a routine type of communication..Am i right?

MSL I think it’s not the best example to make generalisation.

How often do you listen their ordinary communcation, when nothing tragedic happend before? I do, and can tell, this style is typical. I called it extremely in comparison with russian, can you imagine the same omitting in Moscow airspace?
Truly spoken, i don't personally like full confirmations, and always try to shorten as much as possible, futhermore, simple "thanks" can be enough sometimes, BUT never as an answer to levelchange instruction or smth like that.

Mila, could you please grammatically correct my posts? As you said we are here about to learn. And you also missed my quest "pleasant to read to (or without second to? Mila?)!"
thanx!

2Штурман ёмоё
Hi!!
Lost internet connection for about 24 hours...That was a sort of presonal drama as well.

Mila, could you please grammatically correct my posts? As you said we are here about to learn.

well there are a few points to be corrected.... I am afraid..
to listen TO- always go together
nothing TRAGIC....
Truly SPEAKING, ,,

And you also missed my quest "pleasant to read to (or without second to? Mila?)!"
*********
I am sorry, but I can't read this one...What did you mean???

2 Штурман ёмоё
First I think NPPGA85 and Russian national phraseology rules (which are rather verbose) aren't mandatory for them. Meanwhile international radio communication much more brief. And the second, nobody is perfect.

Hi MSL!
Firstly...secondly...thirdly - are the posssibilities
much more brief= shorter/concise/abrupt???
meanwhile?
I would say -differently, in another way, other than, on the contrary, contrary to, on the other hand, while...
verbose= wordy, tedious

2 Mila
Hi! Thanks for your corrections.

Under "more brief" I meant "more concise".
Meanwhile = at the same time, simultaneously

Mila, that's by far better!!!! :)

Truly SPEAKING = честно говоря?! i met somewhere spoken in the same context
pleasant to read to goes always together as pleasan to listen to? that's what i meant
nothing TRAGIC.... oh yeah, i generated this new word ))))

by the way, could you please inspect my previous posts as well
appreciate

2Штурман ёмоё
To be honest with you, I don't like to correct that much from the previous posts, as it takes some time to go back and search for them. I'd rather do the following:
when I come across your nearest post I would point out to some Ooops, if any...
****
I met somewhere spoken in the same context- I FOUND SMTH SOMEWHERE
I generated = I MADE SMTH UP
inspect= to look at
nice to read as well as nice to listen to?? OK!
Hope is that what you are looking for?
Have a pleasant evening! ;-)))

Hi!
I hope that everyone is OK.
Here is a bit more fun for you.
PROVERBS AND THEIR MEANINGS

A "proverb" is a short, traditional saying in general use. It
usually expresses some obvious truth or familiar experience.
Here are some proverbs that are well known in English, though
some of them come from other languages. The meanings given are
generally accepted meanings, though other interpretations may be
possible.

1. "Don't cross your bridges before you come to them."
Don't worry about problems before they arrive.

2. "Soon learnt, soon forgotten."
Something that is easy to learn is easy to forget.

3. "Even a worm will turn."
Everybody will revolt if driven too far.


4. "It was the last straw that broke the camel's back."
There is a limit to everything.


5. "The way to a man's heart is through his stomach."
Many women have won a man's love by cooking good meals.


6. "Where there's a will there's a way."
If we are determined to do something, we can do it.


7. "The best advice is found on the pillow."
We may find the answer to a problem after sleeping.
Enjoy it and keep on practicing!!

Hi Mila
Nice proverbs! № 6 is most authentic I believe. In Russian I would say: Желающий что-либо сделать ищет способы, не желающий - причины.

Yes, you are right MSL.

By the way, what is the weather like in Moscow today!
They say something cold either sunny, rather confusing on the weather forecast site. Just would llike to know the real one.
Thanks...

The weather is rather comfortable now. Current temperature 24 deg С still rising, wind calm. In the morning sky was clear, but now cumulonimbus are developing, and I'm afraid a thunderstorm might happen in the 2-nd half of a day.

If meteorologists present on this thread let them correct me :-)

Thanks for the update. Not quite sure about the clouds type in our place as there are none of them:-)))This is rather unusual for us. The temperature is also very comfortable +22 and no wind either. They say that it's going to be like that during the weekend< which is very nice, indeed.
Looks like there are no meteo or weather people in this thread...
Well, will have to forecast for ourseleves then.

The thunderstorm has broken out in the end. Fortunately it's not too heavy.

Fair enough, we do not have thunderstorms that often...Rain or shower is much more frequent than lightning and thunderstorm...and not to mention fog and mist;-)))
So the weather is being nice and there is a chance to have rather pleasant weekend...

Sure! Friday is the most popular day of a week on this forum. On this day forummates look forward to take themselves into alcohol nirvana with enthusiasm :-)))

Friday is the most popular day here as well. I think that if you do not work on Saturdays and Sundays it's not a big sin to have a few drinks...but not over the top of course, socialising and mellowing out.

it's not a big sin to have a few drinks...

Well, and how much is it in gramms do you think?

a few drinks- we measure in wine glasses - 250 gramms, so it would be a glass or two of red or white wine with food..

It's not too bad I believe. But national traditions of alcohol consumption go far more further unfortunately...

national traditions of alcohol consumption go far more further unfortunately...
and mostly frustrating and horrible is the so called "self made stuff" or "fake" vodka that actually kills the population...

an interesting site for those who are eager to learn British English ;-)))
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldserv ...

and another one
http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/l ...

Hi everyone!
Hope you are OK?
I just would like to check with you a couple of terms
waypoint -???.. по маршруту...
tailnumber- бортовой номер или номер борта по реестру?
Thanks in advance...

Hello Mila,
I suppose the Russian for waypoint is " (промежуточный) пункт маршрута" and concerning "бортовой номер или номер борта по реестру" - they are the same.